April 23, 2025
Creating Magic Moments: The Timeless Power of Perfect Ballad Selection
Brian B takes us back to his origin story as a teenage karaoke host with frosted tips in late-90s California, revealing how this unlikely start built the foundation for his DJ empire. With disarming honesty, he explains the perfect karaoke host paradox: "You can't suck, but you can't be so good that people are intimidated." This delicate balance created the stage presence and crowd reading skills that would later positively impact his career.
The conversation shifts to practical business strategies as Brian and Joe break down the economics of weeknight entertainment. They calculate how a DJ willing to hustle can build a six-figure income by combining weeknight trivia or karaoke gigs ($200 for 3 hours) with weekend weddings. It's a masterclass in entrepreneurship disguised as casual conversation, offering real pathways to financial stability in the entertainment industry.
When a listener asks about tackling marathon four-hour dance sets, Brian B reveals his secret weapon: carefully crafted "mini-sets" or "routines" that can be mixed and matched throughout the night. This approach prevents the common DJ mistake of frontloading all the best material and ensures consistent energy from start to finish. The hosts then share their holy grail of timeless ballads that work across all generations, from Righteous Brothers classics to slowed-down EDM tracks that create unexpected perfect moments.
Gear Corner brings practical solutions to common DJ problems, with a reviews of a pair of Bose noise-canceling earbuds and an unexpected find: a portable electric nail trimmer perfect for DJs concerned about hand photos. It's these blend of big picture career advice and practical everyday solutions that makes Beyond the DJ Booth essential listening for any entertainment professional looking to elevate their game.
Want their curated playlist of perfect multi-generational ballads? Comment "timeless" on Joe's Instagram reel and discover the songs that connect 20-somethings and 80-year-olds on the same dance floor.
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00:22 - Welcome & Show Introductions
02:35 - Joe's Karaoke Host Origin Story
08:15 - Building Weeknight DJ Events
16:25 - Gear Corner: Bose Earbuds & Nail Tools
20:05 - Tackling Four-Hour Dance Sets
21:46 - Timeless Ballads Every DJ Needs
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Welcome to Beyond the DJ Booth Podcast.
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I'm one of the co-hosts, Brian B, and this is Joseph Bunn Wow.
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Formal name again Formal name.
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I'll take it Joseph Bunn's here.
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How you doing?
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I'm good man, Feeling good since the last episode 30 seconds ago 30 seconds ago that we just wrapped.
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I don't know why it's a go-to for me.
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I just always like to ask how you're doing.
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I feel for me.
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I just always like to ask how you're doing.
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I feel pretty good.
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I started watching the show last night, uh adolescence.
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Have you seen this on netflix?
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I've heard about it, everyone's telling me it's super disturbing.
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I only got through the first one but like, oh, how many episodes is it?
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I don't know, uh, I thought it was just like one documentary.
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No, it's like a series.
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Yeah, it's a show, it's not a it's not true?
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I don't think, oh Like how it's just disturbing man.
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It's about a 13-year-old that's suspected of murder.
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That's as far as I've gotten oh my God, Not sure.
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See how many episodes there are in Saquon.
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You like Beavis and Butthead what you like.
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Beavis and Butthead yeah, I love Beavis and Butthead.
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Mike Judge effects is it a comedy?
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yeah, comedy cartoon, but like adult cartoon okay it's about this mushroom.
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It's pretty cool all right.
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Do you have to be high to like it, or okay, it's?
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about, like, the pharmaceutical industry.
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Okay, it's really good because I'm watching white lotus now.
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I'm caught up on that yeah, I don't know how you have time I finished severance, I started this other one called paradise.
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But I don't really like to watch shows at the same time because the storylines get confusing to me Anyway, but I noticed I had to turn the subtitles on, which is very rare for me, but they had heavy British accents or either Scottish maybe, and it was like everything when you were saying how you doing it's like you're all right, You're all right, that's like.
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They must say that 50 times Like any that all right, you're all right, that's like.
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They must say that 50 times like any, that's like a hello, like it's.
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It's the most common greeting.
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It sounds yeah, you're all right love.
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You're all right anyway.
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Just made me think of that.
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Um, so I learned something interesting about you last week.
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You did yeah I told you yeah oh, we're playing trivia.
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Oh, and we, we are at this um pizza place, slash bar, right by my house.
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Brian picked me up and we're there, and I don't know how this topic comes up, but I find out you used to host karaoke.
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Yeah, talk to us about that.
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I mean how old are you at this point and what city are you living in?
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18, 19 years old.
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You're Cali, california.
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Yeah, this was Frosted Tips, frosted Tips.
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Old near cali california.
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Yeah, uh, this was frosted tips.
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The frosted tips frosted tips, so it's the same bar that I used to dj at.
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Okay, and actually they never started.
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They started with karaoke first.
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It was a karaoke bar that eventually turned into dancing okay, and so the marketing manager at pioneer at the time we were friends and so he said hey, you want to come out and shadow me and do some karaoke stuff?
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And I'm like I was in a band, so I kind of already sang a little bit.
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I mean, I wasn't a lead singer by any stretch, but I could carry a tune.
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And so I go to this thing and, man, that is a whole nother world so these were like the off nights.
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This would have been like friday, saturday this would have been like tuesday no, no, this was a friday to start.
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Then when I came in to start djing there, they had me on saturdays.
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It was doing so well that they moved the karaoke to thursday.
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Okay, so I was doing djing friday, saturday at this bar.
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Yeah.
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Then they moved karaoke to wednesday and I was doing thursday friday saturday dancing, so I was there four nights a week okay.
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So this was my favorite part, like what and, and I didn't really know, you could sing.
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Tell us your go-tos, what were your, because this is gonna shock people.
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I've never done karaoke, never, nah, wow, I don't want to you kind of okay.
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So the key to being a good karaoke host like drunk, yes well well the thing is to be good, a good karaoke host has to be able to carry a tune.
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You can't suck, but you can't be so good that people are like, oh, I'm not doing that oh, you gotta be kind of so I'm like the perfect kind of host yeah, because I'm not great.
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Yeah, I'm not terrible, right.
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So people feel like they got a little bit of confidence, sure you know kind of come in there, sure um, it was 90s alternative, oh yeah so slide goo goo dolls was like a go-to.
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Why don't you slide that vertical Vertical Horizons?
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Oh God, I love that song.
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Everything, she.
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Yeah, everything she wants, yeah, and then you Only Get what you Give oh New Radicals.
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Yeah, I mean, I was pretty much.
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That was the era of all of that, you know.
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So it was like Wow, oh, and then the one that I would shine.
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I can't even do it now, because I don't remember, no, oh, one week bare naked ladies when we do the rap yeah, chickity, chinese, the chinese chicken that's pretty much all I remember now at this point, but I used to have it down but the thing is, you space it out what do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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like you don't sing all these songs in a row, sure, when you see a dip or you're like, if you see like the same person if people just write on paper, paper, paper, paper they turned it in back, then yeah, you have the professional karaoke singers or who they think they are Sure, so they'll give you like 10 slips at one time.
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I'm like, I'm like I call you up for 10 songs in a row, Right?
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So that's when I have to kind of interject myself into the order and sing so it doesn't sound like it's this person's you know concert.
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But I will say it was a great foray into learning what songs work for DJing on mobiles, because they're all sing-along songs.
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Yeah, right, right and those are the ones that did the best.
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Yeah, so you kind of learned real quickly what songs could work at a wedding or whatnot.
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Number one and number two it's a great place to get gratuity, because people always want to move up in the order.
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Oh, so I would prime that tip jar with, like you know, 20s and 50s in there.
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I'm like, well, hey, the last person put in a, it was me but you know you don't know that off the get it's so loose there.
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So you can really test like jokes material if you want to throw that in there.
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So that was like a good foray into, like getting me into MC.
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I feel like it's a, you know, if there's any things, one I I would think it would be a great way to polish your mc chops thousand percent, because there are lulls, there are, you know, breaks.
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You do want to be on the mic but don't want to be, you know, too awkward.
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You want to keep it moving, right, right.
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And then I also and I've told my guys, you know there's several guys that work here everybody that works at bun dj company has another job, just period, and you know, people often express hey, man, you know, I just I hate my job and I wish I could do this full time and I'm like you could, but you're gonna have to go out there and hustle up these weekday shows, yeah, and it's going to be karaoke or what we were at the other night, trivia.
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Yeah, that guy could have been a dj.
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He was doing that.
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Uh, you know what where did uh bowling, you know, become invented or whatever you know he was doing that kind of voice like this?
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but you had a good point.
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You said that that night that like he was on from 7 to 9 30 at the latest, it stopped at like 9 9, 30 yep probably made Easily, I'm guessing.
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I would guess the same.
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I think the gear probably stayed there.
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Yeah, I think he walked in with the questions they had.
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This particular version was on our phones to answer.
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He tallied it.
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Read the thing he made $200.
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Well, let's just say if he did that four nights a week, that's $800.
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For three hours, that's crazy.
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That's including driving there.
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Yeah, 800 times four, 3,200.
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I mean 3,200 times 12, I mean made $40,000.
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Right, Plus, I had a wedding on a Saturday or whatever.
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Yeah.
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I mean you could be making six figures.
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Yeah.
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But you're going to have to get out there and either do trivia or karaoke.
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You're going to have to basically go door to door say, hey, do you have a slow night?
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I'd love to try this trivia thing.
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I'd love to try this game show.
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I'd love to try this karaoke thing and you're going to have to build it and the cool thing about that is if it's consistent, you get this like with karaoke.
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I can tell you for sure you get the regulars man.
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They get to know you, you know their songs you know.
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So you can kind of get it in there and the bar thinks you're a hero, right?
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Because nobody was there Right.
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And karaoke and trivia are great because you're sitting drinking right Eating food.
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You're not like at a club where you're dancing.
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You know what I mean.
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Right, you're making them money the longer they're there.
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Dude, this is I mean.
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When I left Wilmington in 99 and moved here to Raleigh, those club gigs and again this was DJing, not karaoke or trivia were exactly what I just explained to you.
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I would go in a bar on Hillsborough Street, so here in Raleigh, you know which is the college the main drag for college and I would go in this place the Big Bad Wolf Tuesday night.
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I mean there were three people in there and I'd be like, hey, man, I feel like we could do a DJ night in here and this was like really the starting point of a DJ even being a thing, and like they had a booth and they, you know, they probably did okay on the weekends and I'm gonna go around and I literally would go to those wooden things around campus and put flyers up and there was no social media, there was no text blast, email blast, Like we had nothing.
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But first week there'd be 20 of my friends there and then 20 became 40.
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40 became 80.
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80 became you know, 300 lying down the block.
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Yeah, and I got.
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Brian, my friend, sitting there at the door taking $5 cover from everybody.
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And that was my money.
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I kept you know, so I'd go home with $1,500 minimum.
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That's awesome.
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I would do that two or three nights a week.
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You know, as what was I back then?
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20, 27, something like that, 26, 27, just crushing it, just cash money, you know, and they would keep the bar, yeah, like, and it was a huge win for them, yeah, and a huge win for me.
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Yeah.
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Get my name out there and make a bunch of cash money which was cash money still king?
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Yeah, totally.
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I got another gear corner for you.
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Sure, all right.
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So I lost my AirPods recently.
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I'm concerned that you've gone to another brand, but let's hear it, let's hear it and let me tell you.
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I'm very particular about the old school style of AirPods because they fit my ears, not the long ones, not the long ones I hate because they not the long ones, not the long ones.
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I hate the long ones, the shorties with the with the rubber tip.
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No, I'm sorry, I guess they are the longer ones.
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Then yes, the old school ones because they stay in my ear better, but they don't interesting whenever I listen to music.
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They never sound great, but you look poor though when you're wearing the.
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I know, but they stay in there, they don't pop out.
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They don't pop out, okay.
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So I I lost them, and this is like my eighth pair I've lost over a course of years, because it says airpods number eight on my oh no, it does yeah so because in case I ever find them, you know, I'm like ah, maybe I'll have them in there, but then I started deleting them all just the other day.
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I'm like get rid of all these.
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I'm never gonna get them again so I started putting on the social media.
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I was like, hey, who has?
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Good airpods, yeah, or or earbuds I guess it would be shout out casey rush where's he out michigan, I don't know that's my boy, though, good dude bows now.
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These are not cheap I will tell you 500 ish.
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Okay, but they had a deal at the airport at that little.
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It's called emotion I think whatever, yeah 250, so it was half price.
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So I was like I really can't pass this up, to at least try it.
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Sure sucks, great, okay, but these are premium.
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Do they have a name?
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They uh, I can give you the actual.
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They'll all have the link up there.
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But the the the basics.
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They're noise canceling number one which is really great, but you can also turn them on to atmosphere so you can hear what's happening.
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Sure, the bass in them are great, the battery life is great.
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I now use them everywhere and you can get those on amazon as well.
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Any idea what the?
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I think I just kind of mentioned it but it's yeah, you did.
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So it's actually $5.98 on Amazon, Wow you got them for $2.50?
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$2.50,.
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They had a deal.
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That's the only reason I got it, because I was like I wouldn't spend 500 bucks on it.
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There's no way I would lose it anyways.
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I know myself with them, so highly recommend it.
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They're definitely nice.
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The case is a little bit bigger.
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Yeah, the the bud itself is about the same right, I don't want to put it in, but the air cance, the noise cancellation.
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I didn't realize how crucial that was I didn't have that on the old.
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I know airpods right so I could always hear.
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But to listen to music travel on a plane, yeah, it's crazy how it can block out so much it does do great crying babies and stuff.
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That's number one okay, I'm going to two for today, okay, two for this is kind of bougie, oh, bougie, but not bougie.
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Okay, what's the one area that you think you get photographed the most at a dj gig?
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What part of your body do you get?
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Oh, either my hands around your hands right yeah, so I was always getting frustrated because you know I'm, I know that, so I'm like I got to make sure my nails are in on point.
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Oh, wow, right, okay, but when I would bring that little clipper with me, I'm like I'm always snagging it on stuff.
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I hate it.
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Electric nail trimmer, Stop it bro.
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So this is the little holder that holds all the nail stuff that you drop off.
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It's empty, don't worry.
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Okay, I'm going to in there.
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No way.
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I wish mine were longer try it you can try it, just put it on the top part and then basically, this holds.
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It holds it down for the um, for the speed I feel like I have to use this.
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You got to.
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Oh wait.
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Well, and also, man like bro, have you ever been somewhere like in public and seen people cutting their nails?
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oh yeah, that's gross, that's disgusting.
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Dog, public is crazy.
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Right, it's got two speeds, okay if you hit it again to go faster so if I just put my nail in here, oh it's, it's a buzzer, yes, it's not a clipper.
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It's not a clipper like a sander, like a sander kind of.
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Yeah, I kind of like this.
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I told you I didn't know if I'd like it or not.
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Oh, I see exactly what you're saying, dog.
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This is nice now hit the double speed.
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Now we're going to hear the high speed.
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This thing is going nuts now but let me get my save yourself some money on a manicure.
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You don't got to do it at all damn bro then you just hold down that side button to turn it off.
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I feel like you found a gym, the thing is going off, and then you just dump it.
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Yeah, you're done.
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Um, you want my price?
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Yeah, what do you think?
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I'm 1999, 1999 I can't remember, so I gotta, I gotta, look it up okay, I feel like I'm close on this one 1999.
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Let's see what we got here.
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We have 28.99.
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Okay, so I keep it in my snack bag.
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I thought you mean it was gonna.
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No, that's the thing, because I always sometimes get it like uh, cut and, like you know, hung on something yeah, yeah this doesn't.
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This is like a full-on sander damn, he said a sander bro.
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This is nice.
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This is so small, and the only thing I think about with you and all the gadgets is when you pull them out, are they actually charged up?
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Because I feel like everything you have is it's wireless.
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It is I mean, if you're, I'm using them so minimally, right, right, like so I I I mean, I've had this thing for a couple months now.
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I feel the same.
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I'm just like an overcharger, quite frankly, like with my lights and everything.
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Oh, that, yeah, you got to, which is not good.
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